blind love.."romantic" death..
Somewhere in the distant future..
the dialogue is between this teacher and an young student(i don't know abt his intellectual abilites at that time but in this age is sure to be branded as a psychopath)
T(Teacher): "Oh!! wat a nice weather..so pleasant..i simply love this."
S(Student): "Love!!..how can you love this weather..u love this bcoz u have seen the other facets of this weather which were quite disturbing to u.But if they were not there u couldn't have loved this weather.So in reality u should love the bad weather too..bcoz that lead u to love this pleasant weather"
T: You seem to know a lot abt love.
S: i don't know..but we can sure find it out..let me put my point and let us disucss it only in the perspective which most people understand..love between a boy and a girl..everything else is not discussion worthy.
T: oomph!! that's wat you youngsters are always interested in..wen at time u should be learning many other things..u people waste this valuable time on such trivial unnecessities.
S:The old people think the young ones don't know anything about love.The young people think the old ones have forgotten abt love.Alas! both are mistaken.Let this statment of mine be not mixed up wit my opinion.Ok!! wat do you think is the most abused statment of all time.?
T: My GOD is great
S: No, I Love You.
T: how do u say love is abused the most?.
S: bcoz,there are just too many selifsh people who use it to their own mean ends.It is selfishness under the grab of pure unselfishness.
Let me put my point..there are two character's Mr X and Ms A,and both think they have fallen in love..but wat actually happens??..X has some properties which make him unique and so does A..but wen they fall in this thing..they have to acommadate each other..so Mr X who declared mad love for his true love..changes himself and some properites of him change..say he changes to Mr Z ..so does Ms A to Ms B..Mr X who is in the form of Z actually loves B which is somewat less or more than A but not equal to A.So the essential characteristics have to change.there is no love between X and A but between Z and B..who are hybrid mixtures of each others fantasies.
So,to avoid this anamoly..there is only one way for love..and that is it has to be blind.
T: blind..love is blind isn't it??
S: yes that is said but never practised..and can't be practised by so many eogistic people walking on this earth.Wat you do is actually love your selves..otherwise why do u need people with smilar tastes,similar opinions,similar professions,similar cultures ..why such intolerance?.
T: there are so many people who have fallen for differences also.
S: yes ,there expectations are different ..where such small things like religion,profession are nothing.For men ,in many cases it is prize-winner syndrome..where they feel like they have won a trophy and for women it is the taming of a man's spirit ..the satisfaction is more then anything else..he is a potential source to satisfy all her wants..so she tames him to be wat she wants him to be...with exquisite looks,romantic ,sentimental words as weapons.
T:Then wat do all those romantic movies,romantic novels,romantic poems,romantic dramas profess.
S: bullshit! sorry but thats wat they are..
T: How can you say that?
S: bcoz they make weak characters into hero's and heroines..people who can be afflicted wit a mere delay from a person's reply are made heros..people who in their whole life have done nothing but just achieved a woman are shown as heros for the world to follow..coupled wit many foolish statments like " Love happens only one time" ..."For everbody there is somebody else born on this earth"...
To put simply they celebrate death.They kill a living indivdual and make him into a mono maniac whose all thoughts are concentrated on only one person...as i see the world's most famous lovers are all dead before they can live together.
T: that shows they have even scarificed there life for their love.
S: Ahaa!! take again Mr X and Ms A.Ms A loves Mr X .If conditions arise as such that Mr X has to scarifice his life ...wat he is actually doing is denying Ms A the object she is loving.How can we say Mr X is loving her if he is denying her wat she thinks is her life.
Another case,if one dies first and the other comes to know it later the best romantic solution is to die bcoz she/he can't live without the other person..now here again is something twitchy..let say the man died first..if she dies too then she is killing the love of her lover..which again shows she is concerned wit her happines and her problems rather then her love..which she has been so proud to show off all the time!!
T: So you mean to say there is no true love at all..
S: i don't how that creepy "true" word has been associated wit love..probably bcoz people have seen so much idiosyncrasy in the name of love ..
Ok!! coming to it..Food,fear,sex,sleep are the basic thing which are imibed in all animals.Here one of them requires a companion..and that is the thing which pulls most of the people..
it is just like small children asking for toys..adults ask for adults.
T: But is that the only reason for attraction towards opposite-sex.?
S: it is the major but not the only reason.There are just too many poems which gives us the various other reasons..emotion,caring,giving..ohh there are just too many words.
T: ok! i would like to ask you onething ..will you fall in love?
S: yes,Life cannot be enjoyed by being a philosopher..there are just too many questions to answer.I have to be a jackass to njoi and i will be if need arises.
T:that 's why so many people are happy i think..they are all jackasses.
S: happiness is an illusion...haha
ps: more can from me on this topic..which is too vast for one silly blog to comprehend..
posted by kamesh at 10:24 PM
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It's a nice blog. I "love" to comment on this .I "love" the interesting conversation too.
Well first of all love between a boy and girl is NOT the only love which is discussion worthy.
Love is also a emotion like hatred, happiness, pain.But what i feel is that most other emotions have limited variation.But love varies more than other emotions alothough it has same base.
We love our parents,brothers,sisters,cousins, uncles,aunts,friends,girlfriend(s)/
boyfriend(s),pets,our room,our books,our town,God etc etc. Needless to say that the way we love and the intensity with which we love them is different. The behaviour of love changes with everyone.
So seeing them only from "girl-boy love" frame is not justifiable.
And according to this funda "Love can happens many times"......
I think people who died or tried dying in love didn't see or didn't bother to see love around them.
I really don't know what these "true love" and "blind love" are.I know that there is only Love.All other kinds of love are fart.So I can't comment on that.
And I feel any kind of love makes a person better. It's not just acommodating each other, it's not forcing one's choice-list on others.It's not just satisfying some desires.It's not celebrating death. It's not being weak.It's just living and loving life...
There is a quote about love from Vivekananda I'm sure you must have read that....
"All love is expansion, all selfishness is contraction. Love is therefore the only law of life. He who loves lives, he who is selfish is dying. Therefore, love for love's sake, because it is law of life, just as you breathe to live."
hai teacher kada lessons cheppali....
y was the other way round....any spacific reason?
just to break the ice,that students can be as knowledgable as a teacher..when they give them a free hand.They have to remember that students are below there level just bcoz they have heard nothing abt it before.
archana- Theorotically i too say love exists between other relation ships..but none of them understand it..eg: parents ..for most of them by abiding to their rules is the single criteria for our love..go against them and still make them believe u love them..it is too difficult.
pets- we love them ..bcoz they can't argue wit us..if they can speak and disagree then this love will extinguish in a puff!!
Love is not an emotion to me...it can't be mixed with those brain-electric impulses which we have and percieve it as happiness or sadness.It should help us to become more open to other creatures(just wat SV had said)..not just one..if it is failing to do that..then it is not wat it is.
The so called "true" love that i see..is initially attraction,which fastly becomes posession and slowly becomes an obsession.
You don't think love is an emotion ...strange!
Then according to your argument hatred also is not an emotion..right ?
I think then many emotions will not be emotions...
"love is an emotion"
if love is having an opposite called hatred..then that love is not worth knowing..since again we are being burdened wit these dualities.
It just can't be an emotion...emotions change,ideas change,charcters change ..so if emotion changes and we start hating the object we loved...then can we say we have loved it in the first place or are we capable of loving anything?
That's why i depsise this very term love..bcoz it is often understood to be an emotion just like anything else.
Whatever you say but love is an emotion...
Becoming possesive for someone or something , scolding if he or she is doing wrong are also part of love.
A person hates the person who he/she had loved once only when he/she hurts his/her emotions....that is natural...!!!
If we do something wrong and our parents or friends stop us then that is also love....
Those who care for us will stop us.. some third person will not do that....
Suppose a man feels very happy when he visits a particular place and some day there was a bomb blast and that place is completely destroyed. Now obviously he feels sad when he goes there or may be now he doesn't want to go there anymore.
So do u think that "happiness" he used to feel was not real....
Is that happiness also not an emotion ???
the love u speak off is not possible or personally for me it is not love...everybody hurts somebody else unkowingly or knowingly..how can that affect our feelings
eg: i propose to a gal...she rejects it..i get hurted..now should i stop having the same feelings i had before or i should continue like her..she likes me or not is her problem..but i liking her is truth and i would let it be...rather then cry abt her rejection
if u say possesion is good and listening to frnds and all is nice..then i can't help it.
It is a matter of indivudality ..and we can't get affected by some well wishers..all the time..
the person-place eg..yes he would feel sad..but he has to accept the truth and get on wit better things in life..he can't moan and cry for life time..
happiness is an emotion..which i talked abt in my previous comments.
First of all there r lots of limitations in the language we use to communicate....this might lead to lots of confusion...by the above discussions i found out that the word "love" is very ambiguous.....so other words like "emotion","possession" are also discussion worthy.....what i think of emotion is a non-equilibrium state (equilibrium == normal state of a person which may vary for each individual)....according to this definition consider a son(S) , mother(M), and son's girl friend(G)....Lets analyse the relationships S->M and S->G....let these be the initial conditions(hypothesis)
S->M
1)S always like to talk to M
2)S always like to spend time with M
3)S gets pained when M gets pained(S always want M to be happy)
S->G
same 3 points as above for S->G also(some points added below)
consider point 3....S gets pained which is a non_equilibrium state for a normal human being....which means there is emotion in both the relationships......I dont know what name these relationships have to be given.......
(conclusion)if this is called love then conclusion is "love is emotional"
Consider the word possession......S->M relation is not initiated by either S or M.....but S->G is initiated n developed by either S or G or both(so S will naturally give more importance to S->G than S->M if he has taken active part in developing S->G)......This gives rise to some differences in these two relationships.......the relation S->M is bit safe(i mean less chances of breaking) as far as S is considered......Lets assume that S played a major role in initiating n developing relation S->G.....this leads to new point
4)S dont want to disturb the relation he created(depends on the value he gives to the relation S->G)....if this value he gives to S->G is high enough to make him sacrifice some other thing(say one of his friend).....which means he is possessive about S->G......Again if this relation is called love then conclusion is "Love gives raise to possessiveness"
now..that was too mathematical but still..
if S always likes to talk and spend time wit M..then there will be no use of G..so according to the needs of nature S changes..in this changed S the need for G arises,while M remaning constant.
The 3rd point.."S gets pained wen M
gets pained" ..if this is true one way the viceversa(M gets pained wen S gets pained) is also true..which leads us to a situation where there can be no pain..since this is never true..i would like to point ..S gets pained bcoz he gets pained.
and if we give diff equilibrium states for diff human beings..then there can be no equilibrium or alteast a def for equilibrium..
these relationships are there bcoz they satisfy some wants and desires..if wat u want u didn't get from a relationship..then it breaks..
so these relationships can't be just equated to love..there is something..but that is not everything.
these problems occur bcoz people have to realize the diff between love and want esp wen it comes to human beings.
eg: i say i love this mountain..here in all probability i don't want that mountain.i would just like to sit and watch the mountain..and just njoi the glory of it.
but wen i say i love that girl..there something is being added..i suddenly want her..i just can't watch her play or talk and forget her..but i need her in all my doings..here is something diff??..wat leads to this diff..is "want"..this i say leave it..then you are left wit love.
this "want" adds those emotions..and that's why for me love has to be unemotional..
junta just dont put ur personal feelings into the topic...just talk on the topic.....say with ur mind...not heart.......:-)
kona- there is nothing like saying with heart....how can heart decide something....??its only brain which decides everthing....what u call heart(which stores personal feelings) is a part of brain(i think)....so everone has commented using their brains......:-)
jp---macha ur intellectual power is too high......may be i should just say junta dont be foolish talking too much on a topic(which is absolute crap)......love sucks......and junta its my feeling....what i feel love is......
hey junta the blog needs your attention..... why you people stopped blogging....it is disappointing so many fans like me..... come on people....... i think you have left so many points ....i say "love is eternal" nothing is compared with it....what do you say ...keep blogging people.
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